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Dir ist aber schon aufgefallen, dass in dem Gargoyle Starter 4 Deflections drin sind, oder?
Zudem sind die Gargoyles ziemlich Kampfstark.
Am schwächsten steht wie zu erwarten der Samedi Starter da, wobei der wesentlich besser da steht als erwartet. Da ist einfach zu wenig Defense gegen die ganzen Bleeds mit drin. Aber das Konzept gefällt mir richtig gut.
Die Starter an sich find ich richtig schön zu spielen, wenn auch der Kyasid mal wieder ein fieser Stealth Bleeder geworden ist. Aber zum draften sind die nicht wirklich zu gebrauchen, allein schon der Gargoyle Starter, der mit den Tremere leben muss die drin sind.
Zudem sind die Gargoyles ziemlich Kampfstark.
Am schwächsten steht wie zu erwarten der Samedi Starter da, wobei der wesentlich besser da steht als erwartet. Da ist einfach zu wenig Defense gegen die ganzen Bleeds mit drin. Aber das Konzept gefällt mir richtig gut.
Die Starter an sich find ich richtig schön zu spielen, wenn auch der Kyasid mal wieder ein fieser Stealth Bleeder geworden ist. Aber zum draften sind die nicht wirklich zu gebrauchen, allein schon der Gargoyle Starter, der mit den Tremere leben muss die drin sind.
Wenn der Radius z ist und die Höhe a dann ist das Volumen Pi * z * z * a
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Caller_in_Darkness
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+ 4 Conditionings. ^^
Ja, sehe ich alles. Ich sehe auch, dass von 12 Minions in der Crypt nichtmal die Hälfte das Zeug spielen kann und gerade mal zwei superior Dominate haben.Dir ist aber schon aufgefallen, dass in dem Gargoyle Starter 4 Deflections drin sind, oder?
4 Deflections machen (trotz angeblich neuem Artwork) halt noch kein gutes Deck.
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Dr. Arcane
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allerdings spielen doch glaub ich relativ wenige menschen inzwischen mit einem starter ewig. bei nem spiel, was weitgehend von sag ich ma veteranen gespielt wird halte ich starter eher für ne kostengünstige erweiterung meiner sammlung als für einen "starter" in dem sinne...
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Am schönsten iss das Display ^^Mateusz wrote:Hab mir gerade den !Ventru/Salubri Starter gekauft, ich find ihn Klasse. Viele neue Artworks (Govern, unflinching persistence, wake) + Villein, Target Vitals und eyes of Argus
6 Target
6 Argus
16 Villein
8 Deflections
2 Dragonbound
2 Blanket
2 Shroud
6 Abbot
4 Deep Song
.... Ach ich könnte endlos weitermachen.
Achso ja: Verkaufe Villein 10€ die Karte!!!!
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mehr spoiler , auch wenn einige wahrscheinlich schon bescheid wissen:
Three's a Crowd
requires a ready untapped blood brother of the same
circle as the one you control in combat.
only usable before range is
determined.
range is automatically close,and the blood brother in
combat gets a press to continue.
Evil Eye
Malfecia:
Combat/Reaction
mal: Cancel a strike as it is played (no cost paid). Striking Minion
does NOT choose another strike.
MAL: Cancel and action card as it is played. The acting minion does not
untap.
Shatter the Gates,
Action Requires a ready Infernal Baali with
capacity of 9 or greater.
Put this card on this acting Baali.
A vampire with capacity 6 or more
may burn this card as a D action.if this Baali has 3 Shatter the Gates,
burn them all to give each other Methuselah a shattered counter.A
Methuselah with any shattered counters burns 3 pool during his or her
untap phase.
Tend the Flock,
Master requiring Baali.
Choose a ready untapped infernal Baali you control.Move 3 pool from the bank to a younger
Infernal vampire in your uncontrolled reigon.
Flames of the Netherworld Daimoinon combat card no cost outferior tha: Only usable at long range. This vampire burns 1 blood to strike for 1R agg damage dai: strike: 1 agg damage.DAI: strike: 1R agg damage
The Horde (vampire) G6
independent, non-unique The Horde may tap to give another infernal minion +1 bleed fo the current action.infernal 3 cap dai obf pre.
ally: Infernal Servitor costs 1 pool, requires dai.unique demon with 2 life, 1 strength, 3 bleed. requires an infernal vampire (fuck you ian forestal or infernal pact) dai: move the servitor to the ready region when recruited. Remove her from the game if she succesfully performs an action (after resolution) or if you control no infernal vampires.
DAI: as above, and the servitor may play cards requiring basic dai and basic obf
Unleash Hell's Fury. +1 stealth action. Requires an infernal vampire. Unique. Costs 2 pool. burn option. dai: Put this card in play. This card may attempt to block a D action against you and is considered a 9-capacity infernal vampire with +2 intercept during that attempt. f succesful, the action minion takes 1 unpreventable aggravated damage and this card is burned.
DAI: as above and untap this vampire.
Hexe, combat card costs 1 blood
outferior dai: Strike: 2R damage
inferior Striga: Strike: 1R agg damage
Superior Striga: as above and the damage is unpreventable.
Masca action modifier costs 1 blood
outferior obf: +1 stealth
stri: as above and this acting vampire gets an optional additional strike each round of combat until he end of this action.
STRI as above but with +2 stealth
Diabolic lure reaction
outferior aus reduce a bleed against you by 1
inferior dai requires an infernal vamp only usable when this vampire succesfully blocks put 4 pact counters on the acting minion. if the number of pact counters equals or exceeds his or her capacity or cost burn them to make this minion infernal
DAI: as above, and the acting minions controller burns 1 pool
(that is, the pool is burned when the card is played upon succesful block not when the counters burn)
Vaticination. requires a ready true brujah +3 stealth action. D action (directed at all methuselahs as far as i can tell) look at each methuselahs hand. and select one card from among all those hands to discard.
Outside the Hourglass.
no cost
outferior obfuscate strike: dodge
tem: maneuver or strike:dodge with an optional maneuver
TEM: only usable before range is determined inflict 2 damage on the opposing minion. a vampire can only play 1 Outside the Hourglass at superior each round.
Pocket Out of Time action mod no cost
outferior obt this vampire burns 1 blood for 1 stealth.
tem.+1 stealth
TEM.after any combat this action, this vampire can burn 1 blood to start a new combat. with the opposing minion. if both minions are still ready.
Momentary Delay.disciplineless action modifier.
requires a vamp with capacity 7 or more. only usable at the end of an action blocked by a vamp with capacity 5 or less or an ally (after any combats) Not usable if more then one round of combat has occured, nor if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or ended combat before the press step. the action continues as if unblocked. WTF?
Mind of the Wilds Action Mod
aus+ani: if this action is blocked, this vampire gets an optional maneuver in the first round of the resulting combat and the blocking minion can NOT strike to end combat.
AUS+ANI as above with +1stealth
Hatch the Viper Retainer
pro+ser the minion with this retainer can prevent 1 damage each combat. he opposing minion takes 1 damage each round during strike resolution if the range is close.
PRO+SER as above but the opposing minion takes 2 damage
Lydia, Grand Praetor Trujah G6 Lydia has 1 vote (titled) once each action, she can burn 1 blood for +1 stealth.she cannot play celerity, scarce. dom pre AUS FOR TEM POT 9 cap
Al-Muntathir, God's Witness G6 Trujah
Sabbat. Black Hand.
if you control four or more True Brujah, burn Al-Muntathir. He cannot play cards that require cel scarce.
obf qui AUS FOR PRE TEM
Three's a Crowd
requires a ready untapped blood brother of the same
circle as the one you control in combat.
only usable before range is
determined.
range is automatically close,and the blood brother in
combat gets a press to continue.
Evil Eye
Malfecia:
Combat/Reaction
mal: Cancel a strike as it is played (no cost paid). Striking Minion
does NOT choose another strike.
MAL: Cancel and action card as it is played. The acting minion does not
untap.
Shatter the Gates,
Action Requires a ready Infernal Baali with
capacity of 9 or greater.
Put this card on this acting Baali.
A vampire with capacity 6 or more
may burn this card as a D action.if this Baali has 3 Shatter the Gates,
burn them all to give each other Methuselah a shattered counter.A
Methuselah with any shattered counters burns 3 pool during his or her
untap phase.
Tend the Flock,
Master requiring Baali.
Choose a ready untapped infernal Baali you control.Move 3 pool from the bank to a younger
Infernal vampire in your uncontrolled reigon.
Flames of the Netherworld Daimoinon combat card no cost outferior tha: Only usable at long range. This vampire burns 1 blood to strike for 1R agg damage dai: strike: 1 agg damage.DAI: strike: 1R agg damage
The Horde (vampire) G6
independent, non-unique The Horde may tap to give another infernal minion +1 bleed fo the current action.infernal 3 cap dai obf pre.
ally: Infernal Servitor costs 1 pool, requires dai.unique demon with 2 life, 1 strength, 3 bleed. requires an infernal vampire (fuck you ian forestal or infernal pact) dai: move the servitor to the ready region when recruited. Remove her from the game if she succesfully performs an action (after resolution) or if you control no infernal vampires.
DAI: as above, and the servitor may play cards requiring basic dai and basic obf
Unleash Hell's Fury. +1 stealth action. Requires an infernal vampire. Unique. Costs 2 pool. burn option. dai: Put this card in play. This card may attempt to block a D action against you and is considered a 9-capacity infernal vampire with +2 intercept during that attempt. f succesful, the action minion takes 1 unpreventable aggravated damage and this card is burned.
DAI: as above and untap this vampire.
Hexe, combat card costs 1 blood
outferior dai: Strike: 2R damage
inferior Striga: Strike: 1R agg damage
Superior Striga: as above and the damage is unpreventable.
Masca action modifier costs 1 blood
outferior obf: +1 stealth
stri: as above and this acting vampire gets an optional additional strike each round of combat until he end of this action.
STRI as above but with +2 stealth
Diabolic lure reaction
outferior aus reduce a bleed against you by 1
inferior dai requires an infernal vamp only usable when this vampire succesfully blocks put 4 pact counters on the acting minion. if the number of pact counters equals or exceeds his or her capacity or cost burn them to make this minion infernal
DAI: as above, and the acting minions controller burns 1 pool
(that is, the pool is burned when the card is played upon succesful block not when the counters burn)
Vaticination. requires a ready true brujah +3 stealth action. D action (directed at all methuselahs as far as i can tell) look at each methuselahs hand. and select one card from among all those hands to discard.
Outside the Hourglass.
no cost
outferior obfuscate strike: dodge
tem: maneuver or strike:dodge with an optional maneuver
TEM: only usable before range is determined inflict 2 damage on the opposing minion. a vampire can only play 1 Outside the Hourglass at superior each round.
Pocket Out of Time action mod no cost
outferior obt this vampire burns 1 blood for 1 stealth.
tem.+1 stealth
TEM.after any combat this action, this vampire can burn 1 blood to start a new combat. with the opposing minion. if both minions are still ready.
Momentary Delay.disciplineless action modifier.
requires a vamp with capacity 7 or more. only usable at the end of an action blocked by a vamp with capacity 5 or less or an ally (after any combats) Not usable if more then one round of combat has occured, nor if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or ended combat before the press step. the action continues as if unblocked. WTF?
Mind of the Wilds Action Mod
aus+ani: if this action is blocked, this vampire gets an optional maneuver in the first round of the resulting combat and the blocking minion can NOT strike to end combat.
AUS+ANI as above with +1stealth
Hatch the Viper Retainer
pro+ser the minion with this retainer can prevent 1 damage each combat. he opposing minion takes 1 damage each round during strike resolution if the range is close.
PRO+SER as above but the opposing minion takes 2 damage
Lydia, Grand Praetor Trujah G6 Lydia has 1 vote (titled) once each action, she can burn 1 blood for +1 stealth.she cannot play celerity, scarce. dom pre AUS FOR TEM POT 9 cap
Al-Muntathir, God's Witness G6 Trujah
Sabbat. Black Hand.
if you control four or more True Brujah, burn Al-Muntathir. He cannot play cards that require cel scarce.
obf qui AUS FOR PRE TEM
If our sentence may be to rhyme,
With poetic madness, surely divine,
I would beg the design team to condone
A decision to ban PROTECT THINE OWN!!
With poetic madness, surely divine,
I would beg the design team to condone
A decision to ban PROTECT THINE OWN!!
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Caller_in_Darkness
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So, nachdem ich mich eigentlich sehr auf das Set gefreut habe, weil neue Ahrimanen drin sind, gibts das hier:
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Helen Fairchild, 4 CAP, Group 6
cel obf pre spi
Sabbat. Helen cannot have or use equipment. Sterile
Dovey Ebfwe, 7 CAP, Group 6
ani for PRE SPI
Sabbat. Black Hand. Dovey gets an additional +1 stealth when employing retainers. Sterile
Darlene Killian, 2 CAP, Group 5
ani spi
Allies and retainers cost Darlene an additional blood. Sterile
Sahana, 5 CAP, Group 4
pre pro spi ANI
Sabbat. Sterile
Sylvie Helgon, 9 CAP, Group 6
aus vic ANI PRE PRO SPI
Sabbat. Once each action, Sylvie may burn a political action card from your hand to get +1 stealth or +1 intercept. Sterile
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Irgendwie komme ich mir verarscht vor. Ich meine, nicht dass man bisher immer Top-Minions hatte, aber es war doch immer ein richtig guter dabei. Diesmal hat es nichtmal dafür gereicht. Und die Artworks sehen auch zum kotzen aus.
Political action card? Im Ahrimanen deck?
+1 stealth für employ und nur basic ani?
Ok, die 2-er ist vielleicht ok, wenn man über Deep Song seine bleeds macht. Mir fehlt trotzdem der eine Minion, um den man das Deck aufbauen kann. Die 9-er hat zwar alles auf superior, ist aber mit 9 zu teuer und die Ability ist IMO für die Katz.
Was ich bisher gesehen habe sieht es auch mit den Library cards stockfinster aus. Eine brauchbare Master-Rare ist dabei und sonst...
Hätten Sie doch die Ahris einfach weggelasen und was anderes rein, so ist niemandem damit gedient.
Außerdem, was sollen Karen wie Bliss? PRE DOM S:CE! Ging das früher nicht auch nur mit pre? Dafür einen Rare-Slot?
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Helen Fairchild, 4 CAP, Group 6
cel obf pre spi
Sabbat. Helen cannot have or use equipment. Sterile
Dovey Ebfwe, 7 CAP, Group 6
ani for PRE SPI
Sabbat. Black Hand. Dovey gets an additional +1 stealth when employing retainers. Sterile
Darlene Killian, 2 CAP, Group 5
ani spi
Allies and retainers cost Darlene an additional blood. Sterile
Sahana, 5 CAP, Group 4
pre pro spi ANI
Sabbat. Sterile
Sylvie Helgon, 9 CAP, Group 6
aus vic ANI PRE PRO SPI
Sabbat. Once each action, Sylvie may burn a political action card from your hand to get +1 stealth or +1 intercept. Sterile
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Irgendwie komme ich mir verarscht vor. Ich meine, nicht dass man bisher immer Top-Minions hatte, aber es war doch immer ein richtig guter dabei. Diesmal hat es nichtmal dafür gereicht. Und die Artworks sehen auch zum kotzen aus.
Political action card? Im Ahrimanen deck?
+1 stealth für employ und nur basic ani?
Ok, die 2-er ist vielleicht ok, wenn man über Deep Song seine bleeds macht. Mir fehlt trotzdem der eine Minion, um den man das Deck aufbauen kann. Die 9-er hat zwar alles auf superior, ist aber mit 9 zu teuer und die Ability ist IMO für die Katz.
Was ich bisher gesehen habe sieht es auch mit den Library cards stockfinster aus. Eine brauchbare Master-Rare ist dabei und sonst...
Hätten Sie doch die Ahris einfach weggelasen und was anderes rein, so ist niemandem damit gedient.
Außerdem, was sollen Karen wie Bliss? PRE DOM S:CE! Ging das früher nicht auch nur mit pre? Dafür einen Rare-Slot?
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Nordlicht76
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Du wirst vielleicht lachen, aber ich spiele bei uns ein Ahriman Votedeck.Caller_in_Darkness wrote:
Sylvie Helgon, 9 CAP, Group 6
aus vic ANI PRE PRO SPI
Sabbat. Once each action, Sylvie may burn a political action card from your hand to get +1 stealth or +1 intercept. Sterile
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Political action card? Im Ahrimanen deck?
+1 stealth für employ und nur basic ani?
Geht gar nicht mal so schlecht, mit Spiritus kriegste Stealth, mit Presence Votes. Mal abgesehen von der Gruppe wäre die schon was....
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