Matwista

Yorga · Post by **Yorga** » 22 Nov 2007, 17:47

Deck Name : Matwista
Author : RocketEddy
Description :
Discard all the Slaughterhouses until you get to the good stuff, then bleed for 7 with stealth and prevent your prey from blocking or playing reaction cards.
And finally, when the votes and powerbase are on the table, start playing the slaughterhouses instead of burning them and drop a brinksmanship. (WMO & reinforcements prevent self-ousting!)

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 11 average: 8.5
6x Mata Hari (7) :CHI: :OBF: :aus: :for: :qui: 2 votes Ravnos (group 4)
3x Sha-Ennu (11) :ANI: :AUS: :CHI: :VIC:

bf: :tha: regent Tzimisce (group 4)
3x Durga Syn (9) :CHI: :OBF: :THA: :ani: :aus: :dom: :for: Ravnos (group 4)

Library [60 cards]

Master [29]
15x Slaughterhouse, The
3x Parthenon, The
2x Blood Doll
1x Archon Investigation
1x Auspex
1x Brothers Grimm
1x Giant's Blood
1x Park Hunting Ground
1x Powerbase: Tshwane
1x Secure Haven
1x Ventrue Headquarters
1x Waste Management Operation

Action [4]
2x Sensory Deprivation
1x Blithe Acceptance
1x Pulse of the Canaille

Action Modifier [13]
2x Freak Drive
2x Heart's Desire
2x Elder Impersonation
2x Will-o'-the-Wisp
1x Cloak the Gathering
1x Faceless Night
1x Fata Morgana
1x Into Thin Air
1x Lost in Crowds

Action Modifier/Combat [3]
2x Mirror Image
1x Swallowed by the Night

Equipment [4]
1x Ankara Citadel, Turkey, The
1x Living Manse
1x Palatial Estate
1x Treasured Samadji

Event [1]
1x Anthelios, The Red Star

Political Action [2]
1x Brinksmanship
1x Reinforcements

Reaction [4]
4x Army of Apparitions

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Nov 22 17:46:02 2007]

schweinebacke · Post by **schweinebacke** » 22 Nov 2007, 21:36

Mata is red List! one Secure Heaven is too less.

You need some additional Vote Support: Ventrue Headquater, Intimidation, Feraille...

Then you could add some Tsunda (Ravnos, Laibon Magaji)

Then you should add many Occlusions and Mirror Images for Sealth AND Combat defense (Toolboxy)

more Partenons and Secialisations, Brothers grim?

what about Sibyl`s Tongue?

Irratonalys · Post by **Irratonalys** » 27 Nov 2007, 17:06

you should consider adding some permanency so you can take your willothewisps and hearts desire back on hand if necessary after use.

and id drop the reinforcements for another bricksmanship and swap one mata hari for a genina

Yorga · Post by **Yorga** » 30 Nov 2007, 09:59

schweinebacke wrote:Mata is red List! one Secure Heaven is too less.

You need some additional Vote Support: Ventrue Headquater, Intimidation, Feraille...

Then you could add some Tsunda (Ravnos, Laibon Magaji)

Then you should add many Occlusions and Mirror Images for Sealth AND Combat defense (Toolboxy)

more Partenons and Secialisations, Brothers grim?

what about Sibyl`s Tongue?

one Secure haven is too few in a 90 card deck, but in a 45 card deck with 6 other anti-combat cards and two equipments which can give either S:CE or dodge too? I'm not convinced I need more.

ventrue HQ is already in there, and the support vamps also have votes. For 2 cards, it's not really necessary to add more, imho. Similarly, at a quick glance I count 15 cards (of 45) Tsunda can't play.

Brinksmanship is a backup, not the main concept. I'm comfortable I could pass one vote a turn with 8-9 votes on the table under most circumstances.

I did at one point have 4 parthenons, but trimmed it to 3. With 3 copies I think I still have ~50% chance of being able to play it before mata even comes into play. Good enough for me

Permanency might be a good call, but I think I'll rely on the recursion tech once or twice first. I'm definately not dropping the reinforcements. The plan is to burn through the entire deck, use WMO to pull back the reinforcements each turn, call it with whoever to pull back Will-o'-the-Wisp, heart's desire and a utility* card, then bleed (with pulse, living manse, samadji, perm stealth) for 7, effectively unblockable and unbounceable. I think reinforcements definately works better than sibyl's tongue, here.

* stealth, S:CE, master, etc depending on the table

Maybe I could include a heidelberg to transfer the equipment around, but I'm not sure it's necessary.

Sven · Post by **Sven** » 30 Nov 2007, 10:56

Yorga wrote: one Secure haven is too few in a 90 card deck, but in a 45 card deck with 6 other anti-combat cards and two equipments which can give either S:CE or dodge too? I'm not convinced I need more.

If you should find out that you need more protection, you could replace a few Slaughterhouses with Chanjelin Wards. These are also burn-option Master cards and can protect Mata at least temporarily (until you draw into the Secure Haven).

Irratonalys · Post by **Irratonalys** » 30 Nov 2007, 13:22

you cannot gain the reinforcements back with wmo because reinforcements is removed from the game after the referndum.

intimidation would be a good addition tho

sim · Post by **sim** » 30 Nov 2007, 14:50

Intimidation
Type: Action
Requires: Presence
[pre] (D) Bleed with +1 bleed.
[PRE] (D) Bleed with +2 bleed.

Rarity: Sabbat:R SW:R CE:PV Third:R

What card do you really mean? oO

Irratonalys · Post by **Irratonalys** » 30 Nov 2007, 16:05

ops , shouldve been demonstration

Maö · Post by **Maö** » 30 Nov 2007, 23:56

Maybe Mabaara would be another idea to get discarded cards back

Yorga · Post by **Yorga** » 01 Dec 2007, 14:20

Irratonalys wrote:you cannot gain the reinforcements back with wmo because reinforcements is removed from the game after the referndum.

murp. good point, damn.

Nordlicht76 · Post by **Nordlicht76** » 05 Dec 2007, 14:25

You can took the new Card "Therbold Realty", your Locations cost one less Pool (Slaughterhouse)...

Yorga · Post by **Yorga** » 07 Dec 2007, 13:52

Nordlicht76 wrote:You can took the new Card "Therbold Realty", your Locations cost one less Pool (Slaughterhouse)...

Awesome! Thanks

Post by **Johannes** » 07 Dec 2007, 17:28

Sudario Refraction?